Ahhh, Christmas, a time for joy, peace, friendship, and for us, great cigars. Alex and Mac sit down to share a Christmas smoke and go over the special occasion in good fun.
Ahhh, Christmas, a time for joy, peace, friendship, and for us, great cigars. Alex and Mac sit down to share a Christmas smoke and go over the special occasion in good fun.
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this is episode nine of the my cigar
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pack podcast the christmas special and
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for this one we're just talking about
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good cigars christmas and having a good
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time thank you for joining us stay
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this is tuned
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this is episode nine the christmas
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special
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this is episode nine the christmas
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special and
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for some reason on the occasion yeah for
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some reason when you said you were gonna
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dress for the occasion i thought you
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were actually getting some like
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holiday inspired
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oh i i i got
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a gift uh with good timing i've got
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smoking um le patricia um pca released
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exclusive from crown heads which came
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along with this amazing hat that john
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sent over john my man i appreciate you
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and got love for you nothing else um
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thank you for always supporting what we
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do thank you for the amazing headwear
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always it's pretty much all i wear i
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mean
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um
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carbione path baby c-y-o-p
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let's go
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red green
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i'm in the spirit
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um i will be drinking some
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some gin tonic instead of uh eggnog
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because i don't have it here but i did
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order it
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uh i forgot my drink
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snooze you lose what
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i did bring a knife to cut my cigar with
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and i'll be smoking
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this is an scpr4 that i earned at
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survival school
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quite proud of that
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proud of that and i'll be smoking and
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unkind by blackbird cigar company
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so i have a question
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sure
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did you earn it by surviving
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because that's the whole point of
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survival school right
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oh yeah
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let me show you it says alumni let me
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show the people as you can see well it's
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kind of
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uh right down there it says alumni so if
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you pass
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the survival course you get
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a knife so if you survive you get a
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knife if you die you die
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or you can quit too don't forget that
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you can uh
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you can chicken out and quit
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and you won't get a knife
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you can so the cool thing you can tap
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out
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yeah you can and some people have i had
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a great group so no one tapped out of
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that one but the cool thing about this
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knife is that uh
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not only is it
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like
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the alumni knife
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but uh it's designed by the instructor
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our instructor designed that knife so
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it's really cool
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cr4
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stands for his initials patrick rollins
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i knew that great guy
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yeah sure you did
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the great guys there what are you
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smoking again
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it's a pca release by the crown heads
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um i've had it a couple times before but
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pretty sure most of the cigars that i've
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had were
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um when miguel and uh
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john cena sent them to me in the last
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couple of times because we
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don't believe we're allowed to buy it
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since the bc exclusive and we did not go
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to pca this year it's my first time
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pve
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earlier this year
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sorry uh i didn't hear a word you said
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because this cigar blew me away with the
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first draw
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oh my god
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um can you define blue you away
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uh it it blew me away so hard it
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actually froze your stream so i actually
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couldn't hear a thing you were saying
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i saw i saw you froze on my end so duh
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yeah
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i saw that
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that was the cigar
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that was a cigar yeah man it's so it's a
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pca exclusive and it's first time i
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haven't attended to a pca or as formerly
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you know an ipc pr in i think eight
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years
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but i did go as i was saying to the uh
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tpe which was in vegas um so
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you know that took care of that next
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year we'll be at pca
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i haven't been to any of those
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but i have written a lot for those if
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you know what i mean
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i know exactly what you need
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so listen this is the christmas special
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um
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you know
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this is the time where we uh rejoice
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with
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a lot of
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gifts
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um
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thankfulness
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great food
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everybody gains a couple pounds watch
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uh watches christmas um
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movies sports special games
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um i always enjoyed watching kobe quit
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on christmas
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that's that's gone all right p kobe yeah
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um so we'll just stick to football
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regular programming i'll be i'll be
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surfing for a little bit
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in the dr so we're just shooting it just
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in case
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i don't have access to uh
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to a to a nice little setup so we can
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record it so we are actually recording
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this a couple days ahead of
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uh christmas week so yeah as people see
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it you're in dr
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yeah exactly um for all you
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non-believers
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happy holidays for all you believers
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merry christmas
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it's a great time to uh all in all like
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we've been through uh
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through a strange time it's a great uh
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opportunity to just
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be thankful
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we've got we have a we have too much to
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be thankful for and i'll have a lot more
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to complain about so let's focus on one
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over the other for once
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and uh just have a good time
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well said now speaking of
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the the holidays in general
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i mean
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regardless of what you believe in or how
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you celebrate
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these are times where most people are
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eating stuff they don't usually eat or
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in the frequency that they
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eat it throughout the year
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drinking different things like eggnog
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um having certain cookies
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what are certain cigars that you think
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are going to be great for people to
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smoke
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during
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the holidays like during christmas time
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uh weather-wise
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food wise beverage wise i've already got
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at least one in mind just because it
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just it screams out these particular
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flavors but i want to hear you what you
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say
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well there's a reason i picked this
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cigar
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and it's because it has
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a little bit of a gingerbread flavor to
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it that is so christmassy the colors
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don't don't make you think that this is
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the perfect christmas cigar but it is up
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there it's got a lot of christmasy
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flavors if uh if i do say so myself it's
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creamy it's got dense creamy smoke so
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you got a little bit of eggnog and the
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gingerbread aroma that you get it's it's
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it's a man it's good
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get the unkind it's amazing
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i was lucky to have this this very
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example in my november pack so
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good thing i have my cigar pack huh
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always comes in handy huh
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shameless plug huh
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no shame no shame proud plug that's a
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proud plug um
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yeah i i think
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that i mean along those lines
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do do
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hunt for some cigars that i mean you're
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gonna get
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gingerbread you're gonna get
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like pumper nickel kind of flavors
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you're gonna get
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um
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pumpkin spice all these flavors that
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really relate to what your i think
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enhance
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that experience by smoking these cigars
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because i'm pretty sure
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most of you will reduce
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and it is a big assumption i i don't
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really like to assume you know it makes
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an ass of you and me and it's one of my
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golden rules don't make assumptions but
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typically it is it is kind of like a
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rule of thumb
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when it gets colder people smoke less
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you have less time to go outside less
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time to move you're spending more time
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indoors
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most people that you know um
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live in our our listeners uh get enough
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cold that kind of it kind of hinders
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their
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access to
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to smoke i mean
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you got crazy dudes like corey
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from the hot ticket and
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i don't know if chris does it but cory
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has like a little outside tent like he
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literally just bought it just to smoke
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outside it's got like a heater thing
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that he works he gets his podcast done
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outside it's crazy but it you know in
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general people reduce so i i say take
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these
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golden opportunities and golden moments
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um they're they're more reduced so try
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to actually
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thrive on them with the
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particularity of the occasion you're
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eating stuff like all these gingerbread
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cookies these things that are more more
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prone to be you know uh
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spicy sweetness that yeah uniquely
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flavored for the occasion um and find
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those notes in a cigar and try to try to
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enhance your experience with cigars that
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provide
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or according to us or any reviewer that
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you see um but i have a cigar in mind i
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have a particular cigar in mind
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um
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i
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i want to think of more but for now i
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want to think of the patina maduro
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the patina maduro
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is
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just an
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unbelievable smoke but it's got a very
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particular
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um
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it's got a very particular
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performance it it it
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it has a has a very unique sweetness and
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i think that's why
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um cow rich from
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um
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you know from from i think from
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september of or october but right before
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you know the the
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heightened
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point of uh pumpkin spice season
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uh
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he he told me that was the perfect cigar
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to to to match with to pair with the
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pumpkin spice latte or anything pumpkin
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spiced
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and i couldn't agree more i think
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you know you take that and you pair it
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with other things that are you know
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natural or more prone to be eating it at
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this
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time of the year and then you i think
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you're going to get a great result so
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the patina maduro
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um
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it it's got these sweet notes that are
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very unique and but at the same time
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it's got like the these
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kind of like burnt flavors like this
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hickory like very subtle hickory flavor
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um that pairs really well
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with
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you know potentially again gingerbread
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cookies um or any other
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you know chocolate like sweetness that
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you are
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inevitably going to indulge
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um during the holiday so that's my
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recommendation patina maduro yeah
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there's no way
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there's no way people are gonna
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not experience the aromas at least
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right because because they might not eat
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it but they're they'll definitely
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they're definitely gonna smell those
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those christmasy
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food aromas i guess i guess we can say
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that
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baked flavors is what we're going for
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here exactly yes i like that baked
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flavors
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baked
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i want to say
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kind of like
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baked spices um
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you know big spices
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bait uh
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like that maybe like a little bit of a
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sourdough but very very subtle at the
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same time because you get a little bit
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of a
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saltiness salt salty component to the to
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the profile
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uh but enough of that man let's talk
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about
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um some other things that are aligned
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with the holidays so let's talk about
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gifts um gift giving
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gift i got myself
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i got myself a lot of gifts this year
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and they're mostly uh work related gifts
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a new microphone new camera new video
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card for the computer uh so i can uh
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make these videos a lot more exciting
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and push them out quicker
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a whole lot of that stuff and if you
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know anything about the current market
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for video guards you know that they're
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golden right now it's really hard to
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find them at msrp
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uh they're super inflated in price man
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uh so
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i kind of over i didn't
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fortunately i didn't overpay too much
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for the one i got but man that was heavy
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not gonna lie that was heavy
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and uh i got my mom
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an audible subscription
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my brother
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yeah i got my brother some video games
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i got my
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a lot of digital uh gifts here i got my
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sister a curiosity stream
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subscription
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and
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my dad i actually haven't gotten him a
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gift yet
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uh because i have to give him something
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physical i know he really likes uh
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things he can use
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yeah something tangible i don't know
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what to get him yet i've gotten him all
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kinds of awesome gifts over the years
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that i kind of run out of ideas i've
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given him travel human or swiss army
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knives watches sunglasses stuff like
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that he loves it uh
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so
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and i got my girlfriend some books she
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loves to read and uh
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uh yeah
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i don't know what i'm getting you man
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probably a cigar or two
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yeah i definitely need a cigar you
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imagine that
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i mean one
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you just you just doomed yourself man as
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soon as this goes up you're gonna be
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targeted by by best buy
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um
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two
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two um
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i
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you know
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i wonder what would happen to the cigar
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industry if it would operate the same
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way that most markets do in terms of
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supply and demand
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and
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you know it's a very touchy
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subject and i'm not gonna get too deep
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into it we're just gonna briefly go over
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it but what if
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manufacturers took a little bit of
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control on how their product is
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discounted you know imagine how supply
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and demand would regulate
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oh dude
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the patina that we were just talking
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about can't find it anywhere so
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you know places where it's actually at
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instead of going for the msrp 10 it's
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going for 13 bucks
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how great would it be to see that and
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i'm not telling people like people
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should overpay for things or things
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should be more expensive for them but
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how
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how much
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more positively impactful would that be
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for every player brick-and-mortars
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online retailers
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if
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these catalogs or these big companies
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wouldn't be able to
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discount
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product heavily and i'm just going to
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leave it at that
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i'm just going to leave it
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yeah it is touchy it's all it always has
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been and price protection doesn't always
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work
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so
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it doesn't exist anymore trust me yeah
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it's it's definitely touchy uh
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you know i worked at laura so i know all
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about it
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and uh
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well
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i mean it's exactly what happened with
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the video cards i think what happens is
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that
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while we do live in an amazing
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free market system that's one of the
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cons to it the free market regulates
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itself despite
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all sorts of regulations gentlemen's
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agreements rules
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you got to give the devil is due and you
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can't throw out the baby with the bath
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water
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love that you gotta keep saying that you
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gotta keep saying that i love it
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throwing out the baby
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yeah don't get rid of this awesome free
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market system just because it has these
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little corks in it uh we'll just deal
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with it because that's what we do best
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uh survive
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absolutely
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and get knives as a reward
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yes yes oh i'm so proud of owning this
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knife man i'm so proud uh
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it i mean it was
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it wasn't uh pretty a pretty straight
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that's one of those knives or one of
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those things that you can own that has a
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story to it yeah
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so that's that's what uh pleases me most
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about it and well just walking into a
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segway to another topic what's a cigar
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with a story for you like every time you
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see that cigar you go back to one moment
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and in your life
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at each and every single time does that
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exist for you
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it does
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it does i i want to say
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that there are quite a few actually
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some that poise more significant than
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others but
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i think every cigar is memorable to me
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um
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more so before than before i got into
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the retailing aspect before because
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now even though the each one is special
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and memorable
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you know i i have to be trying different
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stuff validating creating stuff
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um but i think
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i can i can come up with a lot of
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you know names and and
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like i can tell you one
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right off the bat
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um
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my first cigar which was uh 2000 and
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early 2000's release
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florifina that my dad had in his humidor
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at the house that i lit up without him
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knowing that's my first cigar
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um
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the one of the taa box pressed
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double box press
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from like
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i want to say
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11 12 years ago my first box
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um
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the aging room f55
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that got number two cigar of the year
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after a number one cuban that year which
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was essentially a number one cigar for
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for um ho chi and boutique blends when i
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was working with them it was an
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unbelievable cigar with a
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ridiculous story behind it the
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um
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the
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age room cuatro
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f50 rome julieta made the year after
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that
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um
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in collaboration with altadis which was
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still one of my favorite cigars of all
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time it's got to be in the top ten it's
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memorable i said i still have a couple
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of bundles left
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um banded i only have like four or five
19:27
they they heavily regulated the bands of
19:29
those cigars so i can only keep a few
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but i have a bunch on banded in my house
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my my
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massive cabinet humidor
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dude the first time i smoked the tiger
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just so many cigars i i think every one
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of them is is memorable to me
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um more so before then i had access to
19:47
all these products that i have to
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constantly and trust me you don't have
19:52
to push me to do it i'll happily smoke a
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lot of cigars just to make sure they're
19:56
good they're
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they're running properly they don't they
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don't need any any
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um
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but i think every cigar to me is i look
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at a cigar if i open up you know i've
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got a humidor here we've got a humidor
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there i got a bunch of boxes i have this
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whole cabinet here is full of cigars in
20:13
there if i just blindly grab a couple
20:15
cigars and i'll tell you a very punctual
20:18
story of the first time i smoked that
20:21
cigar or why i was drawn to smoke that
20:23
cigar
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so i'm very i romanticized the
20:27
experience a lot i never
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that's why when i smoke
20:31
cigars i have to you know i take a
20:33
picture for the moment even if i don't
20:35
post it i embrace it um you know it
20:39
i have a moment with my cigar so i think
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every every moment is memorable unless
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it's an unbanned cigar and even then
20:44
like i
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i'll try to do it unbanned i'll smoke on
20:48
unbanded factory direct just to not
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think of it and i think that's one of
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the pillars behind factory direct to
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smoke something that you know you can
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trust your supplier that is good without
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having to think of it
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but at the same time man even the first
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time i grabbed my like my five pack a
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fresh five pack of a factory direct i
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know the story behind it i relate with
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that i romanticize the process
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so there you have it
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huh you didn't expect such a complex
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answer huh that was a great answer
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because mine's
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a bit shorter
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two cigars two cigars that i'll never
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forget
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one
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uh
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first cigar i ever bought
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yep yes first thing i ever bought i had
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never seen a barber pole before uh i was
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just turned 18 i think and i was buying
21:38
a couple of cigars that i was going to
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share with my dad and that honor goes to
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quesada yeah so blended by the whole by
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the way blended by obstacles and no way
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it was half wheels number one cigar of
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the year
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i didn't care about any of that at the
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time but that makes it so much better
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now yeah yep
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that's that's really cool
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so yeah uh casala barber pulled that was
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the first cigar i ever bought
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and the first box i ever bought was
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while i was working at laura i was using
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one of those employee privileges and i
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bought the
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laura barrow aged which has been long
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discontinued by now
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but is such a good cigar the barrel age
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but not the one by chrome alone
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no no no
22:28
the laura barrel aged yeah and barrel
22:31
aged yeah
22:33
and uh that one uses a
22:36
corojo scuda rapper and that's the
22:37
reason they discontinued it they don't
22:39
deal with corajosputo anymore over there
22:42
and
22:43
it has a lot of sweet notes because the
22:47
laura ages all their tobaccos and
22:49
barrels but they don't do it for the
22:50
rappers and that one had every single
22:53
leaf aged in a in a rum barrel and you
22:56
can really get that you can get those
22:59
roasted woody aromas and a touch of the
23:02
sugar from the rum
23:03
from the sugar cane which isn't supposed
23:06
to be there but
23:07
i mean you have these leaves sitting
23:09
there for a long time and you get those
23:11
notes so oh you do you absolutely do
23:14
yeah and uh i think that was uh a really
23:18
special one just because
23:20
it was the first cigar box i ever bought
23:22
and i liked the cigar a lot too uh it's
23:24
a shame they don't make it anymore but
23:26
the industry is the way it is supply and
23:28
demand not a lot of people were looking
23:30
for that cigar so they couldn't justify
23:32
keeping it up but
23:34
man if i if i will say that i miss
23:37
like what's your favorite discontinued
23:38
cigar yeah let's just say that what's
23:40
your favorite discontinued cigar
23:44
tough question
23:45
the f55 diagram quattro 55 is definitely
23:48
up there
23:50
um
23:53
there's one lfd
23:55
cameroon cabinet selection
23:59
there is
24:01
there's a few there's a few discontinued
24:03
cigars that i mean they hit home and i
24:05
mean
24:06
it whether it be because of you know
24:08
lack of
24:10
access to tobacco or whatever
24:12
they'll make up they'll make a return
24:14
one way or the other through a different
24:16
brand or a different branding or you
24:19
know it's uh it's just a matter of time
24:22
it's just a matter of time that
24:24
you know the or
24:26
maybe there's
24:27
not an intentionality behind getting
24:29
those back but in some way shape or form
24:32
they'll make a comeback
24:35
that faith i find your lack your
24:38
presence of faith encouraging i twisted
24:41
darth vader's words a little bit for
24:42
those who watch star wars you've got
24:44
that reference uh those who don't
24:47
no
24:48
nothing to see you'll have time to spot
24:50
these holidays
24:52
yeah for sure uh i'm not even sure which
24:54
movie that was that was from but i grew
24:56
up watching star wars with my dad a lot
24:59
so i i get it you know uh
25:03
yeah
25:06
it's a lot i think when i think
25:07
christmas i think about spending time
25:09
with my family ultimately
25:11
yeah me too
25:13
yeah my mother's birthday is right after
25:15
christmas so um my
25:17
christmas holidays are very
25:20
very familiar like very you know family
25:22
oriented to me i'm with my family
25:26
all throughout
25:27
you know christmas
25:29
the time between christmas and new
25:30
year's and through new year's i'm very
25:33
family oriented uh
25:36
in general but but yeah
25:38
same same
25:41
same a man
25:43
well what are your plans you said you
25:45
were going to the beach spending uh
25:47
christmas here in the dr
25:49
for new year's i'm actually
25:52
going on a hike with my dad which is
25:54
strange because
25:55
yeah i'm usually the one inviting people
25:57
to uh to go on uh
25:59
on these uh fun adventures but this time
26:02
around it was my dad
26:03
uh he said hey you want to come to
26:06
valle del tatero that translates to
26:08
boobs man valley uh so yeah that's
26:11
that's where we're headed we're gonna
26:12
spend a couple nights there and it's
26:14
gonna be a hell of a lot of fun
26:17
that's that's amazing
26:19
yeah i usually
26:21
i usually have a knife for everyone i
26:23
bring on a hike with me
26:26
uh
26:27
see if i can reach one real quick if i
26:29
have it
26:30
within reach uh never mind i don't see
26:32
it
26:33
uh but
26:34
i buy these open l's these french
26:37
folding knives that are really practical
26:39
they're not intimidating so anyone can
26:41
own them without feeling like they've
26:42
got a weapon on them
26:44
which is a huge concern for people which
26:46
i understand uh so i usually have
26:49
like five of those at the ready uh for
26:52
anyone who wants to come on a hiking
26:54
trip with me and i'll just hand them
26:55
over only two people have had the honor
26:58
of earning their opinels uh
27:02
my uncle and an old friend that's it and
27:05
i've got five waiting for waiting to be
27:07
owned
27:08
so
27:10
and people don't expect it yeah i'm
27:12
gonna drag you on a hike uh eventually i
27:15
told you i told you as i mean let's do
27:17
it in uh in february let's do it um
27:20
let's do it for prosper time
27:23
sort of awesome i'll probably be there
27:26
for a good couple of weeks
27:28
early february until
27:30
after pro cigar
27:34
you can count on uh
27:37
on it not being an easy one i'll take
27:38
you to a difficult hike because i think
27:40
you can handle it i'm up for the
27:42
challenge
27:43
yeah uh what process i'm not gonna take
27:46
you to the most dangerous one i've been
27:47
through uh which was loma del escondido
27:51
yeah in
27:56
in san jose
27:59
you get you people ride bikes there
28:01
though no
28:02
no no sorry i i made a mistake wrong
28:04
province but no el escondido
28:07
is actually a forgotten trail
28:10
you the the trail
28:12
the thing that makes it difficult is
28:14
that
28:15
not only is it on a cliff side
28:17
for for the most part so it's really
28:19
dangerous it's not difficult in the
28:20
sense of oh this is a long trail i'm
28:22
tired it's difficult in the sense of if
28:24
i misstep or i make a mistake i'm
28:26
falling
28:27
200 feet down or worse
28:30
so it's
28:32
sounds inviting but it's going to be you
28:34
know kind of a hard no for me right now
28:37
i i want to i want to stay alive so take
28:39
me to a challenging one but one that
28:41
certainly is going to keep me
28:43
but you know what i'm actually not
28:44
afraid of uh
28:46
of uh potentially dying so we could also
28:48
do that i'm okay with that
28:50
well i didn't die so
28:53
yeah and i go by the name and i go by
28:55
the name of can't get right so take what
28:58
you
29:01
uh yeah that used to be a battlefield
29:03
actually uh el escondido
29:05
so when uh sounds like a place in oaxaca
29:10
well it's in the south of the country so
29:12
you see by nuevo yeah right so south of
29:16
vaidyrev will those mountains continue
29:18
and uh camano
29:20
uh when he was
29:22
guerrilla in the woods some dominican
29:25
history for you guys
29:27
uh he actually had a few encounters with
29:30
the dominican army against the dominican
29:32
army
29:33
uh in those hills and the locals there
29:36
were telling us all about it when they
29:37
were teenagers when it happened they
29:39
were fetching the cows in the hills
29:41
because they don't have pastures
29:43
they have their theirs their livestock
29:46
living in the hills
29:48
uh and
29:49
yeah so so that's that's something that
29:51
makes it dangerous too there's cows
29:53
there and cows kill more people than
29:54
sharks by the way
29:56
uh
29:58
so
29:59
there's a lot of cows in that trail
30:01
and there's no trails in that trail
30:04
should i say
30:05
so you have to have your navigation
30:06
skills be on point and yeah they told us
30:09
that they were fetching the cows and the
30:11
soldiers were telling them not to go
30:12
there because there were rebels there
30:14
and oh man the stories were really good
30:16
uh but
30:18
that has to be something for another
30:20
time because i'll take up all the time
30:21
in this podcast uh but yeah oh
30:25
so much fun
30:27
sounds like sounds like uh good fun
30:28
we'll plan for it man for sure yeah
30:32
mac any last words that you wanna
30:35
wanna provide
30:36
lovely listeners of the my scar pack
30:39
podcast
30:40
merry christmas thank you for joining us
30:42
on the this audacious daring quest
30:46
that
30:47
starting a podcast is and obviously the
30:49
most important thing behind any podcast
30:52
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30:54
why would it be here if it weren't for
30:55
your enjoyment
30:56
and that's it merry christmas happy
30:59
holidays
31:00
rock on
31:01
enjoy life
31:03
absolutely um if you don't
31:06
think of uh
31:08
this
31:10
this particular time of the year to go
31:13
out of your ways and do something nicer
31:14
than you usually do we uh
31:17
we uh
31:18
inspire you to
31:20
do something nice
31:22
you know and try to carry that
31:24
throughout the rest of the year
31:26
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31:27
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31:30
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31:32
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31:34
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31:35
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31:38
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31:40
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31:42
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31:45
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31:48
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31:50
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31:52
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31:55
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31:56
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