Alex and Mac chose three cigars each to hand out to 3 friends. First, an open-minded/palate enthusiastic beginner who's ready to try the really "good stuff" but probably doesn't know much about what it is or how to find it. There's also the filthy casual, he's that friend who thinks he know a lot about the cigars he lights up and is the perfect example of someone on the early end of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Finally, our hardcore aficionado is probably most of you guys, this friend lives and breathes cigar culture and loves every little detail behind the creation and enjoyment of hand-made premium cigars. Enjoy!
Alex and Mac chose three cigars each to hand out to 3 friends. First, an open-minded/palate enthusiastic beginner who's ready to try the really "good stuff" but probably doesn't know much about what it is or how to find it. There's also the filthy casual, he's that friend who thinks he know a lot about the cigars he lights up and is the perfect example of someone on the early end of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Finally, our hardcore aficionado is probably most of you guys, this friend lives and breathes cigar culture and loves every little detail behind the creation and enjoyment of hand-made premium cigars. Enjoy!
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hey folks welcome to episode five of the
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my cigar pack podcast
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for this one we're talking about three
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cigars we're sharing with three
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different kinds of friends our
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enthusiastic beginner our filthy casual
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who thinks he knows everything and of
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course the hardcore aficionado stay
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tuned
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nine
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three
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one
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polling
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sounds great
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five
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episode five yeah episode five
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come on give me five
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boom episode five baby i love it
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yep and uh this time we're
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in the spirit of thanksgiving and
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thankfulness we're talking about cigars
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we're sharing with
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a friend who's a filthy casual
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a friend who's an in
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an enthusiastic beginner so you want to
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give him something good and finally yep
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a friend who's hardcore aficionado
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and uh i've got
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my three do you have yours or do you
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have them up in the top of your head i i
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have them right here man i have them
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right here
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so without further ado let's get started
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for my uh beginner friend my
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enthusiastic beginner i'm giving them
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something good giving them the wise man
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uh
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and uh there's not much to say about it
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other than it's a must-have cigar so
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you gotta get you gotta give your friend
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who's getting started they must have
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cigar that uh will really break
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their uh their expectations and they'll
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probably have a couple of cigars at a
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cigar lounge but this this is this is a
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real stick
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uh i mean
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and the size
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and the size is i think this is a coral
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it is maybe a little a little thicker
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but
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it's a great size too i actually prefer
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this size over thicker formats i like my
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favorite size one format over anything
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else it'd be corona uh just i think i
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got i got eric espinosa saying it on
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camera uh when we released the flora
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finosa
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video a couple months ago
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we've had this conversation i'm pretty
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sure i want to have like you
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integrate that in
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in different various conversations
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you know in your upcoming interviews but
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the thing is if you ask
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industry people not even like sales rep
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or
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you know um
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people out in the battlefield but more
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like
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owners brand owners people that are
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smoking six seven cigars in a factory um
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not just blending around something close
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to like a 46 or 48 um in terms of ring
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gauge but
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i'm i'm gonna say like eight out of ten
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will
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undoubtedly select a corona for their
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favorite vitola first cigar like it's
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it's
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i think it's the perfect size
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i think it's just it just takes up the
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perfect amount of time i think it
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provides the best
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nuances and flavors um obviously there's
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going to be variations based on the
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blend but
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the
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coronas are probably going to be a
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little bit um anything that's thinner is
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traditional a little bit stronger based
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on on the on the ratio the header ratio
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stronger tobacco ratios
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if it in theory
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if it were blended as it should be
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and and and ratios were strategized as
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they should be
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you won't really notice that much of a
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difference other than obviously it's a
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thinner uh cylinder so you're you're
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picking up uh more smoke you're you're
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bringing the ventilation you're warming
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up the cigar more so obviously you're
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gonna get a little bit more of that um
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you know uh power that's hindered in in
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larger rain gauges but it's the perfect
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size man
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and at the same time even though you can
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get a little more strength
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it's also the easiest to smoke in my
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opinion it fits in the mouth really
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comfortably it stays lit for the most
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part
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and they're the least stubborn format
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while
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while not losing the comfort of the
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smoke because when you go thinner like a
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lancer that's not an easy smoke
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it's not
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but just that little extra thickness in
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the corona gives it
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gives it that perfect touch of ease of
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smoking and
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properly balanced smoking experience
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which by the way what are you smoking
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right now
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i am smoking well this is my pick for
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for the for the uh uh for the
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let's call them the the quasi the
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amateur expert let's call it that the
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the real
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enthusiast the guy that's ready to try
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everything
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whether it's you know bold
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not so bold creamy
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nutty earthy all the flavors all the
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powers
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this is the tabernacle havana seed
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connecticut number 142 it is
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the newly released
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and i by newly i mean the last couple of
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months
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um perfecto size um
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foundation foundation cigars the
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tabernacle capacity connecticut number
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142 was released similarly to the
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original tabernacle uh the both two
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perfecto sizes the david
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54 by
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uh by five and 58 by five in the goliath
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size i'm smoking the goliath which we
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just released in a three
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three cigar sampler on cigar yard so if
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there's any left people pick that up
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that's uh
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it's it's kind of a hefty price
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but you know you get you get that bang
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for your buck it's fourteen dollars a
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pop um we did the three cigar sampler
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for 40 bucks shipped
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um so i think that's that's pretty cool
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it's a biblical
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tabernacle
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yup
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yup it's uh you know it's got this
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very unique
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wrapper i'm using mexican binder
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and nicaraguan fillers
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made in nicaragua this is a foundation
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beauty
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provides a lot of interesting notes more
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so
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in the
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dark fruit
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dried fruit
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kind of like that that delicate
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sweetness
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you don't really get a lot of earthiness
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in there
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um not a lot of nuttiness maybe you got
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like this
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charred
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flavor um it's kind of like the smoky
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barnyard flavor
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but it's very unique it's very unique
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and very um
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very desired by those who
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follow
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the foundation family
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so that's my expert pick
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all right so you went from the top i
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started at the bottom let's do that
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let's do that all right that works so
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we're meeting halfway
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uh by the way here's a comment uh
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if you haven't seen our it's not factory
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tour yet
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it's probably it's not up to you
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as we speak it's not up yet but okay
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those guys watching once you do there's
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something i admitted for time purposes
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from the video but it's something that
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manuel says is that cigars are not
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sticks they are cigars treat it with
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respect damn it and just five minutes
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ago i got a stick which is funny but
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it is what it is uh i i promise not to
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say stick ever again
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when i'm referring to a
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artisanally rolled cigar
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you know that that's that's a good
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posture you know that's a that's a very
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good posture respect your cigars
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yeah i mean it goes a lot of work goes
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into it it's a hand crafted product if
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if you've seen handcrafted tools
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handcrafted furniture hand crafted
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anything it's a lot more work and
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usually a lot more expensive i mean just
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compare it machine made cigars versus
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animated cigars that's the exact same
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thing everywhere else anyway we're
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meeting exactly
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and my
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uh
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filthy casual pick and we're calling
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them a filthy casual because these are
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the guys that
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i probably fit into there more than i
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fit into the aficionado side honestly
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that think they know everything
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so you got to blow them off their socks
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with uh something from la casa elijero
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but this one's a pretty good one this is
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a flora dominicana coronado these are
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you know they're albano types so it's
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not san andres
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and uh
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purely dominican blend
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but these are pretty special because
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they're not always in stock and
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productions on them are a bit sporadic
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hopefully because tobacco is good isn't
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available all the time
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but it's a great smoke
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you're gonna get a lot of strength out
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of it and that'll keep your friend
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honest you filthy casual friend honest
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and uh
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and yeah i think it's a great pick uh
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i've enjoyed only one before so it's a
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pretty uh
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pretty
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pretty important gift to give away the
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only second one i have so
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that filthy casual friends really gonna
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get blown off their socks
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that's a great pick and and and if i
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have an interesting comment on that
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cigar is that i'm absolutely
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blown away by the original coronado
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design it was
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i think i think it was a special cigar
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made for like serious cigars or i don't
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remember who who lito made it for and
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then it became a regular thing it's not
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a regular production because it as you
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said it's it's released
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sporadically you know
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here and then here and there because of
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the limited
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access to that tobacco
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it's not like a super
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you know unique
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you know i can't find it anywhere it's
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just it's not released all the time but
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i fell in love with the original band
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which has a has a lion
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has like a lion or a tight it's like a i
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think it's a lion with with a crown it's
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got like this green gem on in the middle
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of the crown and i
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one of my
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missions
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for the next couple of years is to get
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uh lido to approve a a rebranding with
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us um you know whether that would be
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released through us or i don't even care
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i just want to see that coming coming
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back to life it's beautiful i'll show
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i'll send you a picture actually maybe
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we could we could pull it up here in the
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in the uh the visual
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aid for for the tube
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let's uh i'm here
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and just uh roll it over this this uh
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this video track but
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it's interesting that you mentioned
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the there was a feline creature so which
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again goes to show that
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cat-like creatures tend to overpower
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wolf-like descendants so
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absolutely
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uh there's a bit of an in-house rivalry
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between tigers and wolves at my cigar
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pack and i gotta give it to the tigers
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this time you know
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you always gotta give it to the tiger
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listen um i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead
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and
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transition into my my my filthy casual
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pick with the
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cavalier black series number two and
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this is a robusto gordo um
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i picked it because of a couple of
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reasons um we decided to place it for
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the december packs so everybody that's
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listening to this expect the cigar in
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your medium to full
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um selection for december
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it's a
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it's a beautiful cigar made in honduras
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by
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uh sebastien de corpet from cavalier
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cigars it's
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it's got this
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luscious san andreas wrapper
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and a nicaraguan combination the
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combination of nicaraguan fillers and
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binder
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it's got this
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this very unique complexity
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um that
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starts with some spice and then just
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like mellows down but stays really bold
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it stays really you know really um
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really interesting you kind of see it
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tone down in the spice right away and
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and it's kind of surprising to see
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because it's it's not a spice that you
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get from the wrapper you don't really
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get a lot of
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um
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punctuality in the spices that the
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senators gives you it's more like a
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subtle thing but you get like this weird
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spice rush
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when you light it up but then as soon as
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you progress through the smoke it kind
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of tones down but it stays interesting
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it stays i want to say it stays kind of
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wild so it takes you by surprise that's
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my pick um love this cigar
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a big fan of of what civilization has
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been doing with cavalier
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and that's uh that's why i picked it
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you didn't mention that that's real gold
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that diamond is real freaking gold
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it is
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and and that just
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every time i think about that it just
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blows my mind because people don't keep
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their uh
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uh the nub
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people are gonna throw away a nub of
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gold
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you know
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that's that's really funny because the
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first time um
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my dad smoked the white label um a while
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back
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he peeled off
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the the gold thinking it was the label
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and i saw him doing i'm like dad stop
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you gotta smoke that gold bro
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um but yeah that was pretty great and
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you know talk about innovation right
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this this this
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is very hard to do in this industry
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because the product is so uniform in a
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way so
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uh when you have that
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when you have that
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um kind of
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you know innovation
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on the product you're like all right
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lolito's got the cheat
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you've got manolo with that like double
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press salomone you've got a few
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different brands like roma craft when
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they started you like actually
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uniforming the weird shapes and and uh
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triple wrappers and designs on on the on
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the craft cigars but then when you see a
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gold
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um you know gold little foil like actual
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real gold on top of every cigar it's
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like all right this guy this guy is on
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to something
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you know i was thinking about that she
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said when you mentioned the word
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innovation i was like okay who has
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innovated in this industry definitely
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lito with the chisel
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and uh i'm thinking was it placencia
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that made the hex
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uh
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the hex cigars where they have a hexagon
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i mean there's a there's a lot of spaces
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of innovation like you've got the hex
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for plus and step but they also have
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that chip
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in
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that qr that that
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tracks the cigar in the band then you
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have things like
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um
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themselves like placentia growing or
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releasing cigars fully comprised of
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organic tobacco for the first time ever
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um
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you've got
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like let's go back 25 years
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you know when when carlito said he was
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going to grow a very
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um
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very bold very
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uh complex very rich
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tobacco dominican grown tobacco and
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everybody's like you can't do it he's
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like no i'm going to do it and right now
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today one of the most acclaimed products
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cigars or lines in the cigar industry in
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the all over the world is opus x and
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it's originally grown with
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uh that dominican rapper that coolido
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envisioned 25 years ago when everybody
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told him you can't do it he said well i
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definitely can i'm going to innovate and
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i'm going to change the rules
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and i'm going to change the game
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and that he did did do you know uh
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i might have forgotten a little bit but
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do you know where that vision came from
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i think it had something to do
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with some taylor uh
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i think he was met getting his
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measurements to get a suit done or
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something and and the tailor just
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muttered
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something about
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if one doesn't
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make their own
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dress with their own uh with their own
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materials one can't look in style if one
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doesn't use unique materials to dress
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he's like oh cigars they need to be
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dressed in my own leaves
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and it was something along those lines
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there was something about a tailor
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saying something about dressing and he's
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like
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that's it that's a great story i
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actually don't know that at that angle
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but that sounds like something carlito
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would resonate with
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i probably butchered it but
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the gist is
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so yeah we got the gist
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yeah it's on the willie taylor and the
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idea of uh dressing up
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for the
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park
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i got to interrupt you for a second here
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we don't have that 27 minute cap today
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right
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we don't have it
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but uh
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we can do it i mean
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i would love to keep the episodes with
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uniformity at like 30 minutes cap always
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just because it's a it's a great you
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know it's a great
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um time structure like it's 30 minutes
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is it's a drive anywhere so everybody
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can take advantage and play it you know
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before they go to bed and have sweet
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dreams or during a car ride or wherever
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but i think if we can if we have to go
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like 35 just because we're getting into
17:26
like different cigars today we could we
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could go like 35 40.
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all right uh i mean whatever flows i
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don't think it'll take us more more than
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uh
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more than usual anyway
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so
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okay transition into your
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obvious pick
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for my hardcore aficionado pick i
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actually went back to
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a little bit uh
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of
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some time in history this is a laura
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bura vintage 2003. these are actually
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from 2008. uh so this cigar is
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my math's horrible
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geez
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10 12
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almost 13.
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about a 13 year old cigar
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and
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this was back when laura used cellophane
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for uh for their cigars if you don't
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know they use plastic
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in the last 10 years or so
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and you can see this one's all yellow
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and stuff and the reason i'd give this
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one to a hardcore aficionado is because
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this is quite a big boiler stick
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it's really really good actually i've
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had a couple
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and uh it's just something really
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special to experience sumatra wrapper uh
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brazilian tobaccos and the filler i
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think some peruvian and dominican
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and uh
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a lot of ligero too
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and that age really brings it down
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uh a notch in terms of the intensity so
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that you can
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sort of process all those flavors
18:56
without having it well at least in my
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case because i'm a bit of a lightweight
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drink a lot of water not to not to get
19:02
knocked out by the cigar but it is a
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great stick i've had a couple and uh
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i mean not not many people know about it
19:09
so anyone who tries it
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probably gonna be surprised by it and
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they'll probably enjoy it too
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nice
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that's a great pick and that's close to
19:18
home for you
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um so that's a
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unique cigar
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i i i think i have one or two back home
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my humidor
19:28
i have a few um
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quite well i mean i'm not sure i'm gonna
19:32
call that a rare but it's you don't see
19:34
that cigar a lot
19:36
the rear now they're rare now there are
19:38
now okay they i think was was jose
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blanco in the company yeah he was he was
19:43
he was part of that's exactly right that
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was when uh when he was on board and
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and laura like laura right now is is a
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little bit i don't know less in the
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scene of the hardcore fincionaros but
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let's go back to 2003 2005. they were up
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there uh oh for sure i mean i i would
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say they still are but
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there's you gotta take into into
20:07
into mine into consideration
20:09
the amount of brands that have been
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releasing in the last
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not just five years but five to ten
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years you've got all these brands that
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have become staples i mean talk about
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foundation i mean foundation is easy
20:24
top 10 brand for so many smokers and
20:27
foundation just came to the scene like
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five six years ago so
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i mean obviously nick nick has been in
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the industry nick was part of that drew
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state um
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you know all-star team he's been working
20:39
his with tobacco his whole life
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um
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big artisan but
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bran itself is only like five five six
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years old so you start replacing these
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traditional staples um
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you know that dominated the industry 20
20:55
years ago or 15 years ago and i'm not
20:57
saying they're aging they're becoming
20:58
dinosaurs or whatever but there's a lot
21:01
more options to
21:03
to to have as your go-to's and and your
21:06
bring them in your top tens so that kind
21:09
of plays into that
21:11
definitely and something else to add
21:13
let's go back instead of uh 20 years
21:16
let's go back 30 40 years back then
21:20
cigar factories really only made a
21:22
couple of blends
21:24
and uh like out of time that we didn't
21:27
have this variety within the brands
21:29
either so
21:31
if you go to the nineteen nineties
21:33
editions of cigar presentation you'll
21:35
see that there's the fuente there's the
21:37
aurora there's absolutely
21:40
it's just that one
21:42
and it's i guess it's i'm not sure
21:44
exactly how it was because i wasn't even
21:45
born back then but
21:47
it's just that
21:49
that basic okay
21:52
this is what they're making this year
21:53
and it's got their band on it that's it
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yep
22:00
so for my what is it uh
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leisure of category number one leisure
22:06
um yeah you're enthusiastic beginner
22:09
all right right right i already did so
22:11
enthusiastic beginner i'm gonna go with
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the newly released
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uh floor fina cinciale um for chinchilla
22:20
florifina i don't i'm not sure if you
22:23
even say floor if you know when you talk
22:24
about shinchala chinchilla is the new
22:27
warped cigar it's the first time that
22:29
kyle produces
22:31
anything outside of agra norsa leaf and
22:34
el didande which he occasionally does in
22:36
miami um it's produced with our boy
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hostos fernandez
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aka the blow stones and la isla
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and
22:46
i pick this cigar
22:48
because
22:49
it's
22:51
it's very easy going it's got this
22:54
ecuadorian havana
22:56
2000 wrapper and using it's i think it
23:00
may use some corojo 99 i'm not sure it
23:03
uses
23:04
um no it doesn't use coral 999 i use
23:06
hvac dominican binder and it's got some
23:09
other dominican fillers
23:11
um
23:12
it's it's it's nuanced but it's nothing
23:15
crazy in the palette it's very easy
23:17
going it's got these
23:19
these nutmeg
23:21
nutty flavors that are usually really uh
23:24
enjoyable and um
23:27
in in like the holiday season because of
23:30
what you're eating and what you're
23:31
pairing it with and you know uh i think
23:33
it's i think it's a beautiful selection
23:35
to to place uh in the pack so we did
23:38
place it or we're going to place it
23:40
we're going to release it in the um
23:42
they're probably going to be found more
23:43
than anything in the mod to medium packs
23:45
uh probably a few of those
23:47
and
23:48
um we have it up on the site
23:51
just a beautiful
23:54
cigar
23:55
are easy going um the experienced smoker
23:58
can definitely enjoy it um but i would i
24:00
would i would really push the cigar for
24:02
everybody and that includes the
24:05
enthusiastic beginner that wants to kind
24:08
of you know um
24:09
take his
24:11
or her um smoking level up a little
24:14
notch and discover cigars that are
24:16
easygoing but at the same time can can
24:18
can go a little
24:21
more into the
24:23
complex and and nuanced realm
24:26
more so than just the creamy smoke that
24:28
that you just want to blow smoke with
24:30
i think we had
24:32
when we went uh over to hostos i think
24:35
we picked up a couple brought them back
24:37
and had those if i'm not mistaken
24:40
i don't know if we're supposed to say
24:41
that on air but we did
24:44
okay we'll cut it no no no it's fine
24:47
throw it out there let let uh let also
24:50
get back to us and give a [ __ ] but
24:52
we we the one that we did have uh the
24:55
second time around was the one that he
24:57
said
24:58
um we can't talk about this about
25:00
remember that we did that that's the one
25:02
we spoke for like episode one or two
25:05
yeah okay that's the one all right i
25:07
wanted to bring yeah that's the one now
25:08
yeah you gotta teach as well
25:10
we i think that we smoked the chinchilla
25:13
there i think that's that that's what we
25:14
did
25:16
it was pretty good we smoked both and
25:17
they were both good so
25:19
whichever it was
25:21
and pretty good uh it's not quite laser
25:24
focused remember on exactly
25:26
what
25:27
which one it was
25:29
the fact that i remember it was good is
25:30
good enough
25:32
so that's what we got now if you were to
25:35
uh
25:36
take back that gift you gave to your
25:39
either enthusiastic beginner filthy
25:42
casual or
25:43
fiery aficionado which one will you take
25:45
back
25:46
for yourself oh man that's a tough
25:49
question
25:50
if if
25:52
take it back i mean it's why would i
25:54
take it back if i have so many of them
25:56
like let's say i only have so your
25:59
hypothetical question is
26:01
if you only had these three left and
26:04
there's no more of them like which one
26:05
would i take back maybe that's a more
26:07
accurate representation of your question
26:10
let's just say if one of your friends
26:12
has movement and he can't really enjoy
26:14
it because he can't taste her uh pick up
26:16
any of the flavor notes
26:18
right and i have to pick which frank
26:19
gets get gets covered right because
26:22
exactly exactly
26:24
that's horrible um
26:27
wow and he can't save it for later
26:31
you can't save it for later okay so the
26:32
thing with the
26:34
tabernacle is that
26:37
it's
26:38
it's
26:39
i won't smoke it every day so maybe i
26:41
won't be feeling
26:43
you know having the cigar at this
26:45
particular time so i may not take that
26:47
one back so i'll just
26:50
have the aficionado stay healthy
26:52
um and and smoke this guy
26:55
i'll probably
26:58
so between these two
27:00
yeah
27:01
and this i'm not playing favorites i'm
27:03
just saying
27:04
for i'm not playing favorites just
27:07
because
27:08
like i won't smoke the cigar all the
27:10
time like this is a cigar that i can't
27:12
randomly pick up
27:13
you know and be like oh i'm gonna have
27:14
this right now and then tomorrow
27:16
it's gotta be like
27:18
i gotta think that i want to smoke this
27:20
this this cigar because i have to like
27:22
really sit down and try to pick up all
27:24
these notes it's it's very complex and
27:25
unique and dynamic and changing and
27:28
i won't smoke it all the time right now
27:30
a special moment we're having this
27:32
podcast so maybe not this one so not to
27:34
overextend things or go crazy
27:37
i would probably take back
27:42
oh
27:43
man tough question [ __ ] um
27:46
next one
27:47
i would probably take back the
27:51
the cavalier
27:53
okay i would probably take back the
27:54
cavalier
27:56
just because
27:58
the
28:00
the
28:02
i love the san andreas wrapper i
28:04
i could probably have this any anything
28:06
that has addressed all the i mean i'm a
28:09
habano guy it's there's no secret if
28:11
you've been following for some time you
28:13
will hear me say that i'll probably pick
28:15
a pick up a habano first than anything
28:17
else but
28:18
if it's a really nice santa dress rapper
28:21
like my favorite rapper is either
28:23
brazilian
28:24
uh kubra
28:26
or
28:27
uh mexican san andreas
28:30
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28:31
from sorry
28:34
for maduro's i mean i'm a habano guy but
28:36
if i were to pick a rapper i can't pick
28:38
any particular harvana wrapper over
28:40
these two that i really like so i'll
28:42
smoke more habanos but if you ask me
28:44
what's your favorite rapper i'll say
28:45
probably a tie between
28:48
cameroon like solid cameroon nowadays
28:51
it's
28:52
it's it's not just like hard to find
28:54
it's it's it's just like they've been
28:58
they've been commoditizing like they've
29:00
been getting more popular like you you
29:02
get you get hyped up cameroon for like
29:05
not such great quality cameroon so that
29:08
that that that
29:10
finesse that the camera used to have is
29:12
kind of lost a little bit um i would say
29:14
recently a lot of cigars hovered in
29:16
cameroon
29:18
so
29:18
i'm going to stick with my two favorite
29:20
rappers which
29:22
brazilian coo bra it's got like
29:24
beautiful black stains um that
29:27
make make me feel like i'm eating like a
29:29
milk of chocolate with like
29:32
dot like dotted oreos it's it's like
29:35
this weird feel like that and then
29:37
mexican sandra so if i were to pick it
29:39
up and be like i'm attracted by how it
29:42
looks
29:43
um
29:44
i'm having habanos all the time i'll be
29:46
probably going to do i'm probably going
29:47
to go with the cavalier crazy long
29:49
answer but what about you that's a good
29:51
answer out of yours
29:53
because next you're picking from mine
29:55
but out of yours
29:59
i think i'd pick the tabernacle because
30:01
i haven't had that one
30:03
yeah okay that one so
30:05
gotta go
30:06
simple enough simple answer just
30:09
haven't had it
30:11
and uh and you gave
30:12
and it seems like it's got a story
30:14
behind it i love a cigar with a story so
30:16
the whole
30:17
tabernacle david goliath
30:19
i gotta get the reasoning behind that so
30:22
i guess
30:23
can't do that like can in theory but
30:25
don't want to do that without enjoying
30:27
the signature himself so
30:29
now the question goes back at you
30:32
out of mind which one would you pick
30:34
um
30:38
well given it's one of my go-to cigars
30:42
because of the size the flip
30:46
you said
30:48
these can't be go-to's because there's
30:50
no way exactly exactly so i i'll
30:53
probably take the the wise man corona um
30:56
beautiful
30:57
beautiful cigar
30:59
great size i have it all freaking time
31:03
um so i'll probably keep it in my
31:06
rotation be like oh sorry bud you got
31:08
coven
31:09
but you won't have any negative
31:11
repercussions it's just a temporary
31:13
thing so i can smoke this cigar yeah
31:16
this covered won't kill anybody no it
31:18
won't even it won't even harm you it's
31:20
like you're gonna be knocked down so
31:21
like one day
31:22
um you you know you you'll get back to
31:26
the the
31:27
to your horse in one or two days and
31:29
you're gonna be fine yeah you can't you
31:30
can't taste it or smell anything for
31:33
that one day that's a fair thing
31:35
that's a horrible thing but man okay
31:38
i mean it's a podcast
31:40
okay
31:43
so
31:43
i'm not gonna have this one because i've
31:45
had too many of them to pick this one
31:47
over the other two
31:48
and this one
31:50
it knocks me out i can't really
31:53
count on it to be enjoyable for me if
31:56
i'm gonna go i'm gonna turn pale uh
31:58
fifty percent of the time
32:00
so okay i agree with you
32:03
the wife love it
32:05
it's a wise choice you're gonna have to
32:06
fight me you're gonna have to fight me
32:07
for it though
32:08
no we have one each
32:10
okay cool
32:13
all right man i like it all right i'm
32:15
going to give you the the sloppy seconds
32:17
how's that
32:18
okay fine i'll cut it
32:22
cut it in half cody no sloppy seconds
32:24
okay
32:25
uh it's kind of nasty i've actually had
32:27
someone uh
32:29
offer up their sloppy seconds
32:31
i have people do that all the time i'm
32:33
like man what do you think this is
32:35
it's like
32:36
i i don't want your
32:38
chewed up cigar actually
32:41
uh an interesting one it wasn't uh
32:43
someone offering them to me but back
32:45
when i was at laura as a as a
32:48
as an improvised tour guide so
32:50
the tour guide when he's unavailable i
32:52
was the one doing the tours for
32:54
so this this one time i got a call from
32:57
the store and they say hey we've got a
32:59
guy who says he's a hardcore aficionado
33:01
i was like okay
33:02
that's
33:03
time to go on a good tour so i grab a
33:05
couple of smokes put them in my breast
33:07
33:08
and when i meet the guy he's like
33:11
very arrogant
33:13
i am an aficionado of cigars
33:16
and he's like
33:18
that's awesome that's that's oh you're
33:20
aficionado of sorts i
33:22
say and i'm and i'm telling him great
33:25
that because it's awesome you're going
33:27
to have a great time here you're going
33:28
to love it here
33:30
then he just pulls out of his pocket his
33:33
pants pocket a dab it off tube
33:37
and in it there's this half smoked
33:41
davidoff i don't remember quite which
33:43
one it was and this pungent sm
33:47
stench it was a stench just leaks out of
33:50
the tube when he opens it and it's about
33:52
it's about
33:54
halfway done and when he likes it
33:57
he torches the band too and starts
33:59
bringing it in and i'm thinking
34:01
dear me
34:03
why would you hear
34:04
me well and i was i was trying to keep a
34:07
straight face because remember he's a
34:08
guest
34:09
and uh
34:11
i was thinking oh
34:12
okay i'll i'll try to be polite hey sir
34:15
why don't you have a fresh cigar and he
34:16
says oh thank you i'll save it for later
34:18
and he puts it in his pocket keep in
34:20
mind i just grabbed these off of uh off
34:22
of the expendium so they weren't in in a
34:26
plastic cage
34:28
in their uh
34:29
in their foil
34:30
so he just stuck the leaf into his
34:33
pocket probably destroyed it
34:35
unfortunately so that was a bit
34:37
unfortunate i think that aficionado
34:38
actually falls into the worst side of
34:41
filthy casual
34:42
uh
34:44
the worst i filthy casual
34:46
but i mean the guy wasn't impolite he
34:49
was just a little bit arrogant about
34:51
yeah yeah
34:52
but
34:53
i don't know
34:55
he was a great tour
34:58
he was a great tourist he asked a lot of
34:59
good questions
35:00
uh i think he learned a lot
35:03
and he enjoyed the tour so i'll give it
35:04
to him he was a
35:06
really polite gentleman but man that
35:09
that
35:10
that one moment was not cool at all
35:13
pull out your sleep
35:20
i think that this pretty much covers it
35:22
for episode number five um let's wrap it
35:25
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35:28
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35:29
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35:31
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